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Speaker 2
Well, I'm going to be next, bro. Because they, like they do, right? They they they know they sound. You
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Speaker 1
All right, guys, thanks for joining us today on the podcast where we enjoy exhilarating euphoria through creation and collaboration. Today we're here with Black Michael Mr. musical genius. How are you doing man.
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Speaker 2
I'm big.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. It's good to see you, man. Yeah. Absolutely, man. So I, we'll dig into some fun stories here soon, but let's just give the people a little bit background about yourself. Well, you know, let's tell the people where you're from and where you grew up and all that stuff. Right.
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Speaker 2
I grew up uptown, man. My family from the Third World, we kind of, like, moved to the 13th, early, early 90s or whatever before we moved back to the third or whatever moon or 12 or for the while, but just, you know, uptown period or whatever, you know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 1
Where'd you go to high school?
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Speaker 2
I went to high school with John Mack. I got a ton of, time on the farm for elementary school. Okay. Same law school. Middle school? Elementary as well. So for me. Right, for middle school, that's when he,
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Speaker 1
Did you play ball or anything?
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Speaker 2
I was in a band for,
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Speaker 1
That's right. You were band. You were. You were band one, right? Yeah. Because you do a music early. Yeah.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. Well, you know, I grew up in a neighborhood where everybody wanted to be snare players and tenor players, and, I wound up on a on my man, even though I know how to play the drums. Right. But I'm glad I wound up on the horns playing a trumpet because I learned how to read music.
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Speaker 1
Okay. All right. Yeah, well, and it helps you probably a lot with melodies and stuff, all that stuff. Yeah. Because it's crazy. Because, I mean, your drum patterns is some, some of what made you write the, you know. All right. Well, that's awesome. I know you got to explore that stuff. Well, what made you decide to pick up music?
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Speaker 1
Like what happened?
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Speaker 2
Man, it was just something that just did just grow on me as I was, you know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 1
Like what age you think?
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Speaker 2
But since I saw Michael Jackson.
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Speaker 1
You know. Okay. All right.
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Speaker 2
Michael Jackson more. What will stand on the wrong street, I'm saying. So you know what I'm saying? Like, ever since they brought up my grandfather, my grandfather and my, and his brother used to play the guitar. Okay, it's on the porch, and I still watch them. As far as on the music side.
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Speaker 1
So that goes deep in the family.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. I decided what I want to do early age. I remember I told my partners, well, I'm, I'm, I know I was in elementary school, and I want I'm telling my partners, man, I know what I want to do. And I was bringing tapes of beats already to them like, and I'm saying, yeah, for fifth grade, you know, bringing tapes of beats that I was making already.
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Speaker 1
That's that's crazy. What were you like? What machine were you working on it was ABC, right.
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Speaker 2
During the time I, I am that I was a little boy, right. I was making beats. I was putting radios together and stuff like. Like I was experiment.
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Speaker 1
Well, okay. Okay, okay. You do doing what you could out of nothing. You know, I, you know, sometimes I feel like you're the most creative in those moments because like you, when you when you really don't have all the tools, you got to kind of figure it out. I feel like sometimes you, you, you almost create something. You create a new way, a new path.
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Speaker 1
When you don't have the tools, you know? So I feel like you could be really creative in those moments.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, I was I was one of those kids, bro. Where like in school, when you had to build floats out of out of boxes, shoe boxes and stuff like, I was winning those type of contest I got, you know, and I also had, I had a scholarship in France. So I always been creative, you know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 2
Awesome.
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Speaker 1
Who who was, like, your favorite musical influences back then? Like, who were the artists that you were listening to when you were coming up?
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Speaker 2
Like MC hammer was, had NWA you know, I owed them cash from New York, man. Like, you know what I'm saying? So, you know.
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Speaker 1
Everybody had its own run back then. I feel like I feel like. And, Because you really like. I mean, I guess like 90s babies when you were, like, really listening and then. Right. So, I mean, those were some of the best years of music ever. But what would you say your favorite, favorite artist is from, from back then?
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Speaker 2
My favorite artist from back then. Before all before the cars went and.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah, I have.
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Speaker 2
It will probably be, easy.
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Speaker 1
Okay. Yeah.
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Speaker 2
Like something like that or whatever, you know. Easy. Yeah.
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Speaker 1
But he was different. Yeah, easy was different. Yeah. He definitely. He had his own sound. I worked with Mach ten a little bit. I was about as close as I got to to those guys.
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Speaker 2
I mean, the sun, Eazy, sun or whatever, you know, in L.A. or whatever. Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1
I got you. Well, So what, what program? Because then everybody kind of likes to use different programs. What what program do you like to produce on?
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Speaker 2
So, like when once, you know, once once I got around music stuff. I, started with the, the East Sonic, keyboard or whatever, you know what I'm saying? Sample I was sampling in that, I actually had the keyboard doing, Katrina McKay or whatever, you know, but, I started with the MPC or whatever.
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Speaker 2
I and subprime Fruity Loops, I've been that I had that, like.
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Speaker 1
I feel like I feel like everybody started on the demo and Fruity Loops. I know that's where I started. Yeah, yeah, but I couldn't get past that first day bar. I was like, all right, what do I do now?
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Speaker 2
So, you know, I was already familiar with, once, once I jumped on reasons I like. I just liked it because it was it was everything to me, like all those different programs. And the one.
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Speaker 1
I got you, it's very video game. There should be a reason.
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Speaker 2
That reason series.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, I like it. I never seen anybody use it before. I saw you use it, you know, it was, but it seemed very, very video game esque and kind of like, Ableton a little bit. Yeah. But I thought it was cool how you could just download program and you had everything at your fingertips.
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Speaker 2
Always about the workflow, man. Like, yeah, you feel like you were fast. I'm like, you know, I was stuck on MPC at one time and it took me the seed memory. From it loop was better. And I'm like, fully like the best. And I wanted something.
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Speaker 1
No reason for, like, I feel like you got to switch it up every now and then to keep keep creative juices, because you can get kind of a stale looking at that same screen over and over and over again.
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Speaker 2
So it's it gotta make you feel good.
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Speaker 1
Absolutely. Do you have any like, habits and like, creative tips that keep you like moving and and producing like that keep you, creative? I guess you could say music. Well, I hear so like, just to give an example, like jazz, he told me he's got to bring a lamp with him everywhere because, you know, he likes the lamp.
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Speaker 1
Look.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, I need I gotta smoke my. Yeah.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. Yes, Lord. Yes, Lord.
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Speaker 2
Yes, Lord.
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Speaker 1
But that's about it. You can pretty much do music anywhere other than that,
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Speaker 2
Man, I'm positive. I'm confident I might have what I got.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, well, I mean, you should be, man, considering some of the some of the accomplishments that you've you've made, you know, I mean, you've not only created your own sound and a sound that New Orleans has adapted, but you've the, the national, database of listeners have, have picked you too, because they're listening to you music to the Drake stuff and Beyoncé and all that sampling stuff.
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Speaker 1
How do you feel about sampling?
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Speaker 2
Come on, that's what we we grew up.
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Speaker 1
Right. I would you would just say we're putting together stuff with the radio.
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Speaker 2
So we started, man, at the sampling, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, as far especially hip hop, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, like, everybody sample like, that's what that's just what it came from, you know.
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Speaker 1
Well and yeah especially bounce music. Yeah.
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Speaker 2
Right. Yeah. That's you know, of course, but anything, any new genre that's come in if they got a sample soon.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. Well, you know, bring us something from the past. Gives the listeners something to have fun with, you know? But how did that all come to play? The sampling for you? What did you get the phone call for the Drake situation? What happened?
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Speaker 2
Man, I was I was, you know, you know, I was out there, in early. You know what I'm saying? And doing my thing with I whatever the no situation, we became a call, you know, recipes of my guy for what we did. And, he was like, you know, the Drakes and so, you know, he got a call from the Drake situation.
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Speaker 2
You want to get a producer up? I really believe I'm here right? And so he called me back or whatever, and it was like, officer, like I. So.
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Speaker 1
All right. Well, so, what, I mean, were you I mean, you knew it was going to get crazy response, but did you did you know it was going to be a single? Did you know it was going to be as big as it was?
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Speaker 2
Ain't no, none of that. I ain't no. When it was coming out there, a breakfast spot in the alley somewhere, and, the song just came on and I was like, what the,
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Speaker 1
That's got to be a good feeling.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, it was crazy.
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Speaker 1
You like, you know, it's go to the dealership and it's time to go. That's awesome man. Well, what do you think out of those songs that you that that were sampled from you, what do you think is your favorite one? Was it the Beyonce? The Drake track as far as, like, musically, like how did they used it?
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Speaker 2
I don't really got no favorite man. It's just, you know, I just feel like I was prepared for it, you know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 1
You did. They used it in the right sense. Like they respected it. They gave it the right, the right, the right moment.
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Speaker 2
But it was cool. It was cool enough. It did what they had to do or whatever. Yeah.
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Speaker 1
Do you think, I mean, it really shows, I feel like a lot about New Orleans, where these artists, these big national artists come down and they kind of pluck out some some type of creativity or some type of culture, you know, and then they spread it around a little bit and say a lot about New Orleans, right?
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Speaker 1
I mean.
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Speaker 2
City career. One thing. Come on. I was you gotta understand, it's like the music come with the city and the city going. They going to have they say. So, you know what I'm saying? They rocking with it. I'm not, you know what I'm saying? But you know, there's a lot of things that play in the park. Like, you know, I'm saying like they care about them for produce from New Orleans.
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Speaker 2
And you know, that has something to do with the record. You know, exactly how to record the sound, you know what I'm saying? You got you got New Orleans people going to let you know.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. Now we're not going to lie to you about the music either.
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Speaker 2
You know people be trying to do the balanced music out of town or whatever you know. But you know I get it. You know everybody be sometimes saying that people still in and all this but you know, people just being creative. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, buy the real estate and nobody, you know, by the sound and.
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Speaker 2
Right. We just trying to be creative, you know what I'm saying. And people be in the studio trying to catch the next wave and just trying, you know what I'm saying? Everybody trying to make it so.
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Speaker 1
But I mean, it's flattering. It's flattering. Everybody wants to take, you know, the sound and do something with it. You know, it should be flattering. You know? But at the same time, they better make it their own, you know? Yeah. So how do you feel about the new wave of bounce artists coming out? You know, so to each one and how you think, how you feel about them approaching it, how they're doing it.
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Speaker 2
Do like I work with them, you know. Yeah. Like, tweet teasing, you know, treat it, you know, all them everybody you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, why are you on them all? I'm working good. But, like, you know, I'm. I'm sending humble, kids, but, you know, young folks or whatever. I, I like working with them.
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Speaker 2
You know what I'm saying? You got they got very good energy.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. If you were to pick one, who you think is next?
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Speaker 2
Well, I'm going to be next, bro. Because they, like they do, right? They they they know they sound. You know what I'm saying? I definitely I definitely like why I yeah, I listen to a variety of them a lot.
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Speaker 1
Yeah I definitely think it is probably within the next.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. You gotta be.
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Speaker 1
Yeah I, I just that's, that's the feeling I get. Shout out wide.
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Speaker 2
Enough of the devil to shout him out.
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Speaker 1
But yeah, I like his sound. The energy is crazy. Yeah. You know,
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Speaker 2
May I look at, you know what I'm saying? Because, you know, I'm I'm, I'm, I'm territorial on the Or whatever, you know what I'm saying? And I think you look good for our city. You know what I'm saying? This, this side of it.
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Speaker 1
Right?
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Speaker 2
Well, you.
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Speaker 1
Know, 100%, well, what do you think? Or I guess, tell me a little bit about how that no limit situation happened, because, are you still are you signing No Limit or are they helping manage or what's going on? Because it's my.
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Speaker 2
Boy. Like, we we we don't build a crazy relationship. You know, I just told the other day, you know what I'm saying? You got some things he's doing or whatever you want. You want to work on some some other music or whatever, you know what I'm saying? So we just had a conversation. We we good, bro.
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Speaker 2
Like, you know what I'm saying is it's just family, like, you know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 1
How long does that go back?
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Speaker 2
Man. Well, when we go back land by, like, eight years. Okay. Like it? Yeah, about eight years. I'm happy. Things just always been good. But since.
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Speaker 1
Then. Yeah, he's he's a good dude, man. He's he's he definitely, you know, I feel like he's a little hard to get to know. Yeah. You know, he doesn't really let a lot of people in. No, it ain't happening. But I feel like once you kind of get there with them, everything kind of is, is easy going.
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Speaker 1
You know, I always say, I think he's still had the two best free agent signings, out of New Orleans that you could imagine for artists. I mean, I think I think Mystikal and Snoop were probably the two biggest acquisitions from, a New Orleans label that no one would have thought about. You know? I mean, everybody wanted Mystikal, and I, we pulled off.
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Speaker 1
Snoop was just crazy, you know? But were we. You weren't around for that situation. But what what was your thought when that happened? Like. But New Orleans pulling in artists like that to come down and give his wave and and how did you feel like New Orleans was at that moment musically? You think that was a great moment or.
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Speaker 2
I was I was definitely by No Limit music or whatever. And, like, we were we were, you know, we were rolling with Snoop or whatever.
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Speaker 1
Because I feel like it elevated everything. I feel like it went from, oh, you guys are just New Orleans artist now. Now you're a real label in a sense, because now you're Worldwide records. Now, you know, you got you're selling stuff that's going to be going, you know, all through different neighborhoods that you were before, you know. So I felt like I felt like just as a New Orleans as a whole, it elevated everything where you know.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, it was it was crazy, man. Like, you know, I can remember doing that time, man. Like, yeah, we were we was rolling with snow.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. So I know you've also helped create some artists and you had some artists underneath you. What was what was that like? And and what do you look for in an artist that you try to help? Tailor is sound.
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Speaker 2
I think. I think sometimes I be looking for all this that they have their me in them. They drive, you know, it'd be hard to find that book because everybody is. It's like, you just be holy, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? You know what?
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Speaker 1
Oh, yeah. But,
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Speaker 2
You know, I, I was about to say once or whatever, and, you know, I, I had to decide. I mean, being in the game is a lot of work to be a whole. This is a lot of work to be a producer, you know what I'm saying? Then I want to be a CEO. So I, I just I just chose to step back from the other side of things.
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Speaker 2
And, choose the art. Those are the two. And,
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Speaker 1
You can't be everything if you want to be serious about something.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. Be everything, like, you know what I'm saying? So I'm still on frosty as being a producer, you know what I'm saying? But I want be on Front Street, being an artist or whatever. So I have me in the back. I do the writing for the producer or whatever, you know what I'm saying? And taking my bread and just trying to put it behind the artist or whatever.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was always more comfortable behind, like behind the artist, you know? Not necessarily. I'm cool with the camera and stuff, but at the same time, I don't like bragging about myself. So I feel like as an artist. Yeah, exactly. You know, so I feel like I feel like an artist. You've got to be able to brag about yourself.
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Speaker 2
You tell a lot of rappers and singers, I'll be like, man, like, you know, sometimes y'all just need to do right, right on Front Street, you know what I'm saying? Like, you can be writing or just telling a part of the the. Nah, man, I've been recording him since high school. He can rap is. But you know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 2
He could rap, but I'd be like, oh, come on, bro, you still got it. But you probably just need to get the where is the somebody? Oh, right. Yes, Lord, you know what I'm saying, right?
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Speaker 1
There's more than one way to make money in the rap game. Yeah. And, you know, it comes to a point to especially age wise where like, it's just not going to match, you know what you're saying. So it's better to get somebody if we get somebody that can that makes sense to, you know.
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Speaker 2
You just gotta have all that energy. But like, you know, I'm saying nobody's going to go to number and show no, you know, about to get up and be running and jumping and, you know.
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Speaker 1
Right, right, right, right.
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Speaker 2
You gotta fall off stage a couple of times.
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Speaker 1
Mean. Yeah. Crowds serve,
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Speaker 2
Leave it alone.
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Speaker 1
That's funny man. Yeah. No, I, I agree. I mean, your show is definitely what's going to set you apart. That still, that's still probably the number one thing that's going to separate us from I is is is is performances.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. Because you you that's, that's how it is live. You know what? I'm saying? That's where they make their money. You know what I'm saying? That's what you want to make your money all the time.
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Speaker 1
Especially as an independent.
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Speaker 2
You get a lump sum of money upfront. And when they're going to run out, you know what I'm saying? But what's going to keep you floating is, hit record absolutely on something that's keep me on that stage. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. Old orders from the 80s. They still rolling because they doing shows. Let's keep on keeping bills.
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Speaker 1
Absolutely, absolutely.
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Speaker 2
That's the most important thing.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. No. And and and keep feeding their families, you know, I mean, because it's there shouldn't be a shelf life if the song is I mean, there isn't a shelf life. I mean, but those Rolling Stones are still technically going, I think, you know, so, I mean, that's one thing about music, man. It's it it it never dies, but it also never ends.
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Speaker 1
Like, you know, I say this all the time, like, I love it because I feel like no matter what I do and how much I learn, there's always going to be another level, you know? And it's like math. Math is the same way as always. There's multiple ways to get to the answer, but it never ends. There's always a new thing to learn, right?
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Speaker 1
You know, so I love that about about music, man. But, I would say, you definitely out of the top producers in New Orleans. I mean, there isn't anybody there isn't a lot of them that have any number ones. I'm I'm I'm trying to be light. I try to be nice because I want to. I want to give you as many flowers as possible where you did.
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Speaker 1
You know, there's there's there's no one number ones anywhere else.
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Speaker 2
I'm the number one right like that, you know, and I deserve it.
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Speaker 1
I know you have.
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Speaker 2
A lot of work.
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Speaker 1
And I feel like the names that get floated out there that are that that somehow socially are bigger, but they ain't got the hits you got.
00:20:17:11 - 00:20:21:09
Speaker 2
You got the one record.
00:20:21:11 - 00:20:23:04
Speaker 2
That the chance to see like.
00:20:23:06 - 00:20:36:21
Speaker 1
No. But that's that musical genius, right? Yes. Mega man, what's what you got coming up? New. What's in the pipeline? Give me. Give me some. Give me something that's fun that you got coming up.
00:20:36:23 - 00:20:46:22
Speaker 2
Right now, man. You know, shout out the big bro, like, you know, like, right now, man. Hit me with a connector. Well, then we working on some stuff or whatever.
00:20:47:00 - 00:20:53:18
Speaker 1
I have boy reunion going to be big, you know? I mean, it's going to be crazy.
00:20:53:20 - 00:20:55:02
Speaker 2
Going to be crazy.
00:20:55:04 - 00:21:17:09
Speaker 1
It's funny because, actually, I remember I saw you. That was my first. That was my date. My first date with my wife, was Louisiana Fest with, like, six years ago. Yeah. Right. And I saw you backstage at the big old top hat on, remember? And, and I looked at my wife was like, man, we gotta go now.
00:21:17:12 - 00:21:42:02
Speaker 1
We gotta go this year. It's going to be crazy. So I'm excited about it. I think what I feel like that tour is going to bring a lot of attention to New Orleans, right? You know, the no limit one was fun, but I think if I think if Wayne, everybody truly do this one, right? I mean, I don't I just I think it's going to be crazy.
00:21:42:04 - 00:21:50:13
Speaker 2
As long as they do. But I didn't say that it was going to do it at the Louise. It felt like it was. It was only right, you know what I'm saying? Right.
00:21:50:15 - 00:21:53:12
Speaker 1
Well, I feel like it. Also, Wayne, to take control.
00:21:53:16 - 00:21:54:06
Speaker 2
Yeah.
00:21:54:08 - 00:22:00:11
Speaker 1
Right. I mean, because you saw what happened at essence. That did not look good.
00:22:00:13 - 00:22:20:02
Speaker 2
Yeah. It is a lot going on with the, as plus how they how they look or whatever, but. Yeah. Yeah, I still feel like it'll be better. Louisa felt like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's going to feel more at home and, because I know a lot of people that that go to Louisa Fest more than they go to the shows anyways.
00:22:20:03 - 00:22:21:12
Speaker 2
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
00:22:21:13 - 00:22:51:01
Speaker 1
So I kind of feel like that's where we screwed up, you know? And I'm. I'll take the hit on it for the for the No Limit reunion tour because I wanted to do the first one in New Orleans. Right. And I got told by like 15 people don't do it in New Orleans. And I feel like and I listened and I shouldn't have because I feel like if we would have done it in New Orleans, filmed it right, made it crazy, made it look crazy, we'd have gone nationwide and everybody would have wanted a piece of it.
00:22:51:02 - 00:23:11:06
Speaker 1
Instead, we trickled along in some markets that were okay and iffy and, and, and there's still a good concert, but it just didn't. It wasn't the the movement wasn't there yet because we didn't build it. If we just started in New Orleans, it built a movement. You know. So I'll take the L because we I did the first five shows with them.
00:23:11:06 - 00:23:26:01
Speaker 1
So I'll take that l my fucking fault. But I've been I feel. Yeah, but, but I feel like we definitely it definitely would have been a bigger wave, but, you know, we had em. We had Covid. Screw everything up too, in the middle of it. So we kind of it kind of.
00:23:26:03 - 00:23:41:12
Speaker 2
You know, that's home, right? So they love them. They love cash money. No limit value. But they go they go rock out for but like no matter what unless you got we got the surrounding areas. Yeah. You know what I'm saying. There's all of them. The little country town. They really love them. Yeah.
00:23:41:14 - 00:24:04:06
Speaker 1
And so I almost feel like it would have been crazy to do the double concert for the Super Bowl. Right? The no limit cash money clash. I mean, I understand why Atlanta gets to do the outcast and, their whole culture thing and West Coast gets to do our culture thing, and then we get the Super Bowl and they bring in Kendrick, you know, what's you feelings on that.
00:24:04:08 - 00:24:14:00
Speaker 2
Bro? I mean, my my apologies book is up. One year the Saints was playing, who was letting.
00:24:14:01 - 00:24:16:09
Speaker 1
The Chargers or the Rams.
00:24:16:11 - 00:24:29:09
Speaker 2
The Rams. We was we was at who was at a, Palmer house of mine and Kendrick Lamar. Okay. And we two they love you.
00:24:29:11 - 00:24:29:13
Speaker 1
I.
00:24:29:13 - 00:24:35:16
Speaker 2
Always think about that, that that they brought in that moment like we was already going crazy, but out went even crazier.
00:24:35:17 - 00:24:37:11
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00:24:37:13 - 00:24:42:21
Speaker 2
Yeah, man. It's like they should. They could have gave Wayne that, man. Like, you know.
00:24:42:23 - 00:25:08:11
Speaker 1
It was. It's time. Like, if you look at the time, he's been one of the biggest artist touring around the last few years. He went from like 100,000 a show like 600,000, a show like The Dudes and putting in the work, building up to this moment like and it's the right time. It's the right time to give him the flowers, like, because it's just, I mean, I feel like I feel like a bunch of CEO sat in a room and said, okay, what was the number one streaming song last year?
00:25:08:11 - 00:25:10:11
Speaker 1
Okay. That's who we're going with.
00:25:10:13 - 00:25:12:22
Speaker 2
Like not even going one year. That song.
00:25:13:00 - 00:25:13:23
Speaker 1
No.
00:25:14:01 - 00:25:27:00
Speaker 2
It's not, it's not a song is a this record, you know what I'm saying. So it's not even it's not even a song like they got a lot of people that heard it, but then they got a lot of people that didn't write, you know what I'm saying? And know.
00:25:27:01 - 00:25:33:01
Speaker 1
So no, I hear you, but it's just another way we don't get to show off. I called you, man.
00:25:33:03 - 00:25:40:00
Speaker 2
Wayne able to put on a show, man. We ain't got the music, Brian. You know, he got he got he got the features.
00:25:40:04 - 00:25:40:15
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00:25:40:17 - 00:25:42:15
Speaker 2
And Nico really put on a real.
00:25:42:17 - 00:25:48:10
Speaker 1
A real show. I mean, imagine the guest artist lineup would be. Would be ridiculous.
00:25:49:07 - 00:25:55:04
Speaker 1
I know, and he's got to come over and he got a couple records with Wayne. So Wayne probably going to come out.
00:25:55:06 - 00:25:59:01
Speaker 2
About 12, right? Guys like so as more.
00:25:59:03 - 00:26:03:11
Speaker 1
But that's not Super Bowl quality.
00:26:03:13 - 00:26:06:12
Speaker 2
Like I like full of them that fry the Super Bowl or whatever.
00:26:06:13 - 00:26:08:10
Speaker 1
But yeah. Well you know.
00:26:08:12 - 00:26:09:08
Speaker 2
Records.
00:26:09:10 - 00:26:11:08
Speaker 1
I also feel like Kendrick's got time.
00:26:11:11 - 00:26:12:07
Speaker 2
Yeah. He got.
00:26:12:09 - 00:26:12:23
Speaker 1
Like why.
00:26:12:23 - 00:26:17:19
Speaker 2
They can wait to the Super Bowl. Like I think they got what, like three more, 3 or 4 more years.
00:26:17:21 - 00:26:20:04
Speaker 1
To go back in the the West Coast. Yeah I mean.
00:26:20:06 - 00:26:24:09
Speaker 2
Like and it'll be way is by that time.
00:26:24:09 - 00:26:25:05
Speaker 1
Right.
00:26:25:07 - 00:26:28:20
Speaker 2
Right. Did they that when they, he just was on the Super Bowl.
00:26:28:22 - 00:26:54:22
Speaker 1
Yeah. Exactly. I didn't understand it. But anyway, I guess maybe one day you and I'll be making the decisions, for, All right, well, what, I guess the, I guess, really one of the last questions I would ask you is, where do you see the direction of music? Like going for bounce music. Where do you see the change?
00:26:55:00 - 00:27:03:01
Speaker 1
Like, because you've been one of you've been one of the starters, if not the starter. Like where where do you want to see it go?
00:27:03:03 - 00:27:28:18
Speaker 2
Man, I want to see bounce like go crazy like we working man I'm I'm in I'm in some, some kind of seasons with some people. You know, like I say, I'm working with. I'm working with everybody. Like I'm working with. And from the females to the to the male rappers, like, you know, I'm, I'm saying like, man, the team that we, we got a bunch of little records like and and he just got signed and, and the label people like really, really liking him because he like at that age where you know.
00:27:28:20 - 00:27:46:08
Speaker 2
Right, right. Right, right. He like cool, humble lay back. You know what I'm saying? Like he's still a real really do soul, you know, as I see it going forward bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? And like I always say, a long time ago, I'm like, a boss could take over New Orleans, could take over anywhere.
00:27:46:10 - 00:27:50:16
Speaker 2
And and this is happening bro. Like it's going to happen or whatever you know.
00:27:50:16 - 00:27:54:10
Speaker 1
But it's got to get its way that's all.
00:27:54:12 - 00:28:02:04
Speaker 2
Yeah. And it's getting, it is getting it is getting it. But you know is, is is one foot and one foot out.
00:28:02:08 - 00:28:07:11
Speaker 1
But I got you. Yeah. We'll hit it at one point man. It'll hit it hit its stride for sure.
00:28:07:13 - 00:28:09:11
Speaker 2
Those damn checks keep coming.
00:28:09:13 - 00:28:14:01
Speaker 1
Yeah. That's funny man.
00:28:14:02 - 00:28:16:10
Speaker 2
Thanks for that. Oh. Let them. Yes, Lords.
00:28:16:12 - 00:28:31:05
Speaker 1
Oh, man. That's funny. Well, also wanted to say, man, you know, definitely wanted to give some prayers to Choppa because, we, I think I called you about it. I call it a couple people. It was like, man, I that was a bad phone call, like.
00:28:31:07 - 00:28:51:05
Speaker 2
But I just text his phone. I just tell him I love him every day, bro. And I'd be like, I just, I just talk to him, like, I can't wait till we get back in the studio, but because it's like, you know, me, me, him down on Harrison and, Tyler Ball, we got, like, a little group called icon that we we be moving around doing shows like.
00:28:51:07 - 00:29:09:15
Speaker 2
And, you know, I do my thing live, right? With the bounce, you know what I'm saying? Download bring the JS chapel. Bring with him his energy, you know, time, blessing and things. So it is crazy like so we a group right. I just we just missed the show last week or whatever. You know what I'm saying behind it's or whatever.
00:29:09:15 - 00:29:12:01
Speaker 1
So no.
00:29:12:03 - 00:29:12:12
Speaker 2
Prayers.
00:29:12:13 - 00:29:25:15
Speaker 1
Up. Definitely man. Definitely. It was a little I mean it's definitely a serious recovery he's going to have, but we we hope he can get back to making America dance again. Because, because because we need his energy, bro.
00:29:25:17 - 00:29:26:10
Speaker 2
These things we.
00:29:26:10 - 00:29:41:22
Speaker 1
Need we saints. We need him, man. Yeah. How? 2%. And I almost feel like the saints and Pelicans, they got to do like a little something for him. Like a halftime or something like a little like, you know, moment of silence. I pray for him. Like they need to do something because he he created a lot of energy for all of them.
00:29:42:00 - 00:29:51:04
Speaker 1
You know. But, what do you think? I mean, I know the answer to this question because I know you, but what brings elation to you in your life?
00:29:51:06 - 00:30:09:14
Speaker 2
Mind? Just being able to be able to just stay creative, you know what I'm saying? And and just. You know what I'm saying? Just the belief in music, like, where it's going or whatever, like, is is a group I'm saying. Right? Yeah. And I'm with it.
00:30:09:16 - 00:30:15:04
Speaker 1
Awesome. Well, what do you think about elation? What do you think about being here? What do you think about this for New Orleans, for the city?
00:30:15:06 - 00:30:34:01
Speaker 2
I think elation is bring, bring, bring something big to all this. It bring a platform for the for the artist, that come to one spot and just really just have everything going on and really need to go. No where else come. You can learn. You can. You can grow, you can work, you can meet people. You know what I'm saying?
00:30:34:01 - 00:30:50:20
Speaker 2
There's always something going on. You got different rooms for, the artist needs, you know what I'm saying? Like, so it's like. It's just crazy, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, we we really, really have nothing down here like this or whatever, you know what I'm saying? So to have some like, this is just crazy.
00:30:50:22 - 00:31:11:16
Speaker 1
Yeah, well, I appreciate that. I appreciate that, man. I had a patient, and I appreciate our friendship. I, I, it's funny, we met in LA. We had a good time in L.A.. Like, you know, I know how we met through silk and all that stuff, and and we immediately, you know, connected with as friends. But I tell you, the moment that that I knew 100% you were real.
00:31:11:16 - 00:31:27:08
Speaker 1
And we were going to be friends for a while, because when I came, I came down to your spot and we worked for a little bit, whatever. And then it was it was time for me to go home, and you're like, oh, all right, cool. Let me walk you to the car.
00:31:27:10 - 00:31:42:06
Speaker 1
And, you know, I was like, oh, all right, I didn't even know, but okay. All right. You know, great. You know, and, and I just, I knew at that point, like, man, you know, you really are a real when you give, you give a shit, man. And and that and that. That means a lot in this town.
00:31:42:06 - 00:32:02:00
Speaker 1
So I appreciate you. I appreciate your family and your friendship and and what you did for the city, man. So, so. So we'll give you the flowers, man. We'll give you the flowers all day. Well, thank you guys for joining us. Why don't you tell, them where they can find you and socials and and find your music and stuff like that?
00:32:02:02 - 00:32:24:23
Speaker 2
Black in my, like, black in my l.D. Spell black and my like that and everything. You know, black in my old account together with Jesus records back. We got the, you could get the bounce. No little bounce, music, dot com or whatever you can. Everything.
00:32:25:00 - 00:32:28:13
Speaker 1
Everything. Yeah. Black him out, black him.
00:32:28:15 - 00:32:28:22
Speaker 2
You can.
00:32:28:22 - 00:32:30:14
Speaker 1
Find you can find everything.
00:32:30:16 - 00:32:38:07
Speaker 2
Some people be spelling my name wrong and all that. You know what I'm saying? Be, a cute a c key, like a regular black, I ain't I?
00:32:38:08 - 00:32:53:03
Speaker 1
Yeah. You get that? Q get that Q. Hey, there you go. All right. Bye. Well, I appreciate you once again. And thank you guys for joining us. Please, if you enjoyed the show, like and subscribe to the channel. Elation and t thank you.
